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Estudo até o sorteio 1677, mostrando as 176 linhas que SEMPRE ACERTARAM 15 PONTOS

 

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Estudo das 26 linhas de 20 dezenas que NUNCA ACERTARAM 15 PONTOS ATÉ AGORA.

Na minha opinião, elas começarão a premiar com 15 numa frequência baixa. Mas vão premiar até se esgotarem.

 

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02-03-05-06-07-08-09-11-12-13-14-15-17-19-20-21-22-23-24-25
01-03-05-06-07-08-09-10-11-13-15-16-17-19-20-21-22-23-24-25
01-03-04-05-06-08-09-10-11-14-15-16-17-19-20-21-22-23-24-25
01-02-03-04-06-07-08-09-11-12-13-14-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25
01-02-04-05-06-07-08-09-11-12-14-15-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25
01-04-05-06-07-08-09-10-12-13-14-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25
02-04-06-07-08-10-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25

 

 

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Alguma idéia sobre como usar essas linhas para definir apenas 1 delas para os sorteios futuros?

Qual linha vai pontuar nos próximos 5 sorteios? 

 

Das 26 que NUNCA PONTUARAM e também das 176 que SEMPRE PONTUARAM 15.

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@DixieJoe, olá tudo bom?

Olha, fiz uma filtragem aqui e sobrou três linhas das 26 que ainda não deram 15 pts! Acompanhe...

 

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 01 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 12 13 14 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 14 15 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 24

 

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E estas são do grupo de 176 linhas, usando a mesma filtragem!!!

 

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 01 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 20 21 22 23 25
 01 04 05 06 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

 

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Linha de 20 do Gr 176

Ao tomar mais de uma linha sempre teremos dezenas comuns,

Nestas 3 Lns tivemos  14  comuns. Especulando 14 x 5;  veremos em vai

Conc 1679

Obs.: Há algo desconexo, na primeira investida quase sempre acerto,

já a segunda é muito duvidosa

 01 02 03 04 05 08 09 10 11 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 22 23 24 25  R 11      
 01 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 20 21 22 23 25   R 13      
 01 04 05 06 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   R  13      
                                   
01 04 05 08 09 10 11 13 16 17 20 22 23 25        

 

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Em 20/06/2018 at 16:35, DixieJoe disse:

Estudo das 26 linhas de 20 dezenas que NUNCA ACERTARAM 15 PONTOS ATÉ AGORA.

Na minha opinião, elas começarão a premiar com 15 numa frequência baixa. Mas vão premiar até se esgotarem

03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 14 15 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 24  R 15

03 04 05 06 07 08 10 11 12 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 25  R 14
03 04 05 06 07 08 10 11 12 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 25   R 14

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@Marcelo2007 

@Julio cezar Rocha Brito 

 

Viram como funciona?

 

Parabéns pela sua filtragem e seleção de 3 linhas!

 

Não joguei. Só estou acompanhando.

 

E você jogou? rsrsrsrs

 

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Mas vai acontecer isso de novo.

 

Linhas que MAIS SAIRAM vão premiar com 15 e/ou 14 pontos.

Linhas que MENOS SAIRAM também vão premiar com 15 e/ou 14 pontos.

 

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Marcelo2007, se quiser conversar sobre os seus filtros, podemos talvez, juntos, chegar a uma única linha, quem sabe?

 

 

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@DixieJoe, até podemos sim, falar sobre as reduções!!! Apesar de eu achar que foi mais mérito seu, da separação destes conjuntos, do que a filtragem que fiz!!!

Vou fazer a mesma coisa para o concurso de segunda feira (1680), se acontecer novamente, podemos ter achado um caminho hehehe...

Agora, só uma linha vai ser difícil hein!

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Em 20/06/2018 at 16:35, DixieJoe disse:

01-02-05-07-08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23  - Pn 15
01-02-03-04-06-07-08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-17-19-20-22-23-24   -Pn 13
01-02-04-05-06-07-08-09-11-12-13-15-16-17-18-19-20-22-23-24   -Pn 13

Teve a origem de tais linhas uma matriz?

Qual seria o jogo?

3 Colaterais, 14 repetidas, PONTURAM 15, 13, 13.

E em 14 repetidas ocorreu 10.

A opção de teste 14 x 5 assegura 14.

Reformular as pesquisas. 

Voltar e procurar escola que ensine atalhos.

Cezar

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Caso considerem 4Dz, como ocasional oportunidade, para 3N, será um peso fortíssimo nas reduções em tais filtragens de que falam das linhas de 20Dz em apreço.

É difícil? Sim. Realmente, um grande desafio e, ainda que não haja uma resposta direta pero sin esmorecer te a encontrar 4 com 3N: 

19  14  15  13

Sei o quanto simplório é esperar 14 x 5N para obter 9 em 20D e ficar com 6 + 9 = 15.

Conc 1680 para penerar as linhas de 20 sugestione 4 x 3N, ficarei grato se poder considerar, pois, beber desta fonte pode ser um elixir a outros estudo a que estou empenhado em avaliar, tipo C14,7 com 4 Lns de 8 com uma variável.

Grato

Cezar

 

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@DixieJoe, boa noite!

Abaixo a linhas que sobraram após a filtragem, desta vez só foram apenas duas e são do grupo de 26 que ainda não acertaram 15 pts!!!

 

 01 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 12 13 14 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 14 15 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 24

 


 

Agora as do grupo de 176 que sempre acertam!!!

 

 01 02 03 04 05 06 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 17 18 19 20 23 25
 01 02 03 04 06 07 08 09 10 12 15 16 17 18 19 20 22 23 24 25
 01 02 03 04 06 08 09 10 11 12 14 15 17 18 19 20 21 23 24 25
 01 02 03 04 08 09 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 25
 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 10 11 12 14 15 16 18 19 20 22 23 24 25
 01 02 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 14 15 16 18 20 21 22 24 25
 01 04 05 06 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
 02 04 05 06 07 09 10 12 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

 

Estas estão difíceis de diminuir a quantidade de linhas com segurança... mas vou acionar mais um filtro e vai sobrar apenas uma!!!

Esta!!!!

 

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Acompanhar para o concurso 1680!!!

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Em 23/06/2018 at 19:53, DixieJoe disse:

@Julio cezar Rocha Brito 

 

Me desculpe, mas não consigo acompanhar seu raciocínio.

 

 

COMPLICANDO

um pouco mais.

1 - Quanta diferença faz a aplicação de um filtro sobre outro?

2- Vejamos, vou perseguir ( Filtrar ) 5 Lns das ofertas já filtradas de 20Dz by DixieJoe 

3 - Neste método, submeto ao simplório diagrama de redução abaixo não desenhado ( só para facilitar )

4 - O intuito é observar a validade da matemática elementar sobre o arsenal das estatísticas

do III grau.

5 - As Lns são da coletânea acima publicada

01-02-05-07-08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23 
01-02-03-04-06-07-08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-17-19-20-22-23-24 

03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 14 15 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 24

03 04 05 06 07 08 10 11 12 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 25 
03 04 05 06 07 08 10 11 12 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 25 

 

6 - Objetivo

Estratificar alhos de bugalhos e reduzir de 20 para 19 em somente 7 linhas. 

Separe suas 11 Dz e reduza assim para 6, siga do diagrama. 

7 - Finalidade

Diante das inúmeras propostas de retorno para linhas com forte desequilíbrio, tipo a relação 3N para 5D, já oferece retorno.

8 - Considerações ou indignaçãoes

É fato os acertos de  5, 6, 7 entre 11 Dz, logo, a relação 5N x 6Dz será fatal em que condições? 

9 - FERRAMENTA ?

9 - Onde está a planilha que avalia os fatos? e Que possa avaliar retorno ou custeio quando esta linha de 11 apresentar 9 acertos,

Mas, se apresentar 7 acertos será este o caminho?

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5 4 6 24 25 3
5 16 6 24 25 3
5 16 18 24 25 3
5 16 18 21 25 3
5 16 18 21 10 3
5 16 18 21 10 14
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@Julio cezar Rocha Brito 

 

Talvez você esteja completamente certo  nas suas propostas. E espero mesmo que esteja!

 

Agora, concorde comigo que fica difícil acompanhar seu raciocínio!

 

Me ajude a entender, com exemplos, que talvez eu possa participar.

 

Sem entender direito, não consigo sair do chão... Ou das "nuvens".

 

 

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2 horas atrás, DixieJoe disse:

Me ajude a entender,

Eu tenho tentado, mas a tentação cutuca para explicar e eu complico, pensando que estou explicando,

Veja, se não tentei.

Cada ideia se encontra  numerada.

Sei que contamos sua enorme boa vontade de nos entender e ajudar

Mas o peço, a ponte a linha ou o termo e pimba, explico ou explicado fica.

Grato

Ajudem a transpõe para a linguagem corrente.

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@Julio cezar Rocha Brito 

 

Eu continuo sem entender, me desculpe. Vou tentar mais um pouco.

 

Para falar em lógica a ser usada na programação de qualquer rotina, deve haver alguma maneira matemática no algoritmo que permita gerar a reprodução.

 

Você fala em redução de 11 para 6 dezenas... Aí que está a questão. COMO fazer isso de forma a que permita gerar por um algoritmo de programação. Quando a gente conseguir definir essas regras e montar um algoritmo que ajude nesse processo, fica tranquilo e posso ajudar.

 

Até agora isso não ficou claro para mim.

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Concordo plenamente

mas tudo está definido nos exemplos.

E se repetindo.

Desculpe, pesso que deixe fluir um pouco mais o

pensamento para constatar, o que não consigo explicar

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5 4 6 24 25 3
5 16 6 24 25 3
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5 16 18 21 25 3
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5 16 18 21 10 14

 

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