Aguimetal Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Bom Dia! Bom Dia! Rogerio, Paulo, Dixie, Pedro, Silva, Crazy... @oiregor @pauloeasy @DixieJoe @pedrosac @Crazy Rabbit @Silva - GGS, outros mestres que tenha esquecido, só participar... Tudo bem... Espero que sim... Acredito que aqui estão os mestres da lotofacil Pensando aqui, agora sobre a lotofacil, vi algumas dicas, tinha até uma dica do Rogerio e do Paulo no fórum sobre isso... Sobre as dezenas iniciadas com a dezena 3 e 4... (para aqueles concursos especificos que acontecem em media a cada 10 ou 15 sorteios ou mais.) Pesquisei, aparentemente não encontrei no fórum: Seria possivel montar? 1 - Grupos entre as dezenas 3 a 25 (excluindo as dezenas 1-2) onde já teríamos a dezena 3 fixa obrigatoriamente / 4 a 25 (excluindo as dezenas 1-2-3) onde ja teriamos a dezena 4 fixa obrigatoriamente... Buscando os melhores grupos de linhas de 15 dezenas com boas pontuações de 12 e 13 dezenas sem terem feito 14 ou 15 pontos. Objetivo de montar um "tantao de linhas", para analisa-las, quem poderia fazer? 2 - Matrizes especificas para essa ideia de dezenas iniciadas em 3 e 4: tipo: 22-15-12-15 / 22-15-13-15 etc... 23-15-12-15 / 23-15-13-15 etc... 3- ou outra ideia, ou mescla delas... que tal? o que acham... Obrigado Agui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosac Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 39 minutos atrás, Aguimetal disse: Bom Dia! Bom Dia! Rogerio, Paulo, Dixie, Pedro, Silva, Crazy... @oiregor @pauloeasy @DixieJoe @pedrosac @Crazy Rabbit @Silva - GGS Tudo bem... Espero que sim... Acredito que aqui estão os mestres da lotofacil Pensando aqui, agora sobre a lotofacil, vi algumas dicas, tinha até uma dica do Rogerio e do Paulo no fórum sobre isso... Sobre as dezenas iniciadas com a dezena 3 e 4... (para aqueles concursos especificos que acontecem em media a cada 10 ou 15 sorteios ou mais. Pesquisei, aparentemente não encontrei no fórum: Seria possivel montar? 1 - Grupos entre as dezenas 3 a 25 (excluindo as dezenas 1-2) / 4 a 25 (excluindo as dezenas 1-2-3) os melhores grupos de linhas com pontuações de 12 e 13 dezenas sem terem feito 14 ou 15 pontos. 2 - Matrizes especificas para essa ideia tipo: 23-15-12-15 / 23-15-13-15 etc... e 22-15-12-15 / 22-15-13-15 etc... 3- ou outra ideia, ou mescla delas... que tal? o que acham... Obrigado Agui Aguimetal, bom dia! Com 22 dezenas (tres ausentes certeiras) estaremos dentro da faixa de premiacao. Almejando as grandes premiacoes devemos fixar 8 dezenas e acerta-las, apartir dai sobram 14 dezenas para acertar 7, vejo que o auxilio das matrizes torna-se necessario para o fechamento 100%, sugiro dar uma pesquizada em sites de fechamento matematico pois ainda assim serao muitas linhas para buscar os 15 pontos, para facilitar podemos ai sim partir para jogos com 16, 17 e 18 dezenas. Acertando as primeiras condicoes estaremos colocando a mao nos grandes premios! Att, Pedrosac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aguimetal Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hora atrás, pedrosac disse: Aguimetal, bom dia! Com 22 dezenas (tres ausentes certeiras) estaremos dentro da faixa de premiacao. Almejando as grandes premiacoes devemos fixar 8 dezenas e acerta-las, apartir dai sobram 14 dezenas para acertar 7, vejo que o auxilio das matrizes torna-se necessario para o fechamento 100%, sugiro dar uma pesquizada em sites de fechamento matematico pois ainda assim serao muitas linhas para buscar os 15 pontos, para facilitar podemos ai sim partir para jogos com 16, 17 e 18 dezenas. Acertando as primeiras condicoes estaremos colocando a mao nos grandes premios! Att, Pedrosac Obrigado pelo retorno... Sim, acredito que esse é um dos caminhos... Já vamos ter as 3 dezenas ausentes... e uma fixa obrigatoriamente que é dezena 4... para chegarmos nas outras fixas, ou trabalharmos com as melhores desse grupo 22 dezenas com a dezena 4 fixa e posteriormente utilizando algum filtro para reduzir essas linhas... fixarmos mais dezenas e trabalhar com as restantes. Descobrindo o melhor caminho ou essas melhores linhas 15 dezenas para essa condiçoes... Posteriormente, fazermos linhas especiais de 16 a 18 dezenas, ou algo assim... Vamos aos poucos montando quem estiver interessado... buscar por esse caminho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieJoe Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Aguimetal, Qual seria sua idéia geral? Gerar os jogos é instantâneo. Digo, gerar todas as combinações sem dezenas 1-2-3, por exemplo. Se quiser, só definir quais os outros grupos de 3 que quer deixar de fora. Gero e disponibilizo o arquivão no Dropbox para quem quiser. Quanto a usar as matrizes que sugeriu, não entendi direito porque matriz reduzida dificilmente vai deixar retorno financeiro, não acha? Melhor é gerar 100%, aplicar poucos filtros a serem definidos por consenso e gerar os jogos. Depois aplicar uma ferramenta de seleção de quantidade desejada de jogos de 15 que se quiser e testar o Retorno Financeiro e o IA (IA = Indice de Acertos = Qte Jogos Premiados / Qte Jogos Não Premiados). Tenho ferramentas para gerar e fazer isso. Só não sei quais filtros quer usar. ---- Outra coisa: Fica claro que serão jogos de espera pois você está partindo do pressuposto de que não haverá 3 dezenas participando dos seus jogos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aguimetal Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 @DixieJoe Aqui na lotofacil, estou conhecendo agora... não sei bem, quais as melhores estrategias e ao ler varios topicos, foi onde fiquei curioso nesta para estudar... Seria jogos de espera mesmo, sei disso... para quando acontecer das dezenas sorteadas iniciar pela dezena 4, (ou dezena 3 tambem, quem estiver interessado). Quanto ao gerar esse grupo de linhas, não tenho ao certo o que seria ideal ou melhor (eu ficaria com a opiniao dos membros experientes ) Penso eu usar as 22 dezenas (sempre iniciando pela dezena 4) e descobrir as melhores linhas de 15 dezenas, com alguns poucos filtros basicos... eu imagino ser: não ter feito nem 15 e nem 14, limitar as sequencias de numeros seguidos, tenha uma boa media de 12 e 13 pontos, ou mais algum que eu não estou imaginando agora rs (aquelas ferramentas que comentou, não sei se entra agora antes ou depois disso... (pra ver que eu não entendo nada dos programas...rs) Como voce citou "gerar os 100%" em cima disto se for possível... Agora, nisso como o Pedro disse de fixar mais dezenas (não sei se seria antes ou depois de gerar esse grupo de linhas) Se for preciso fixar mais dezenas, para gerar as linhas, eu não saberia dizer quais fixar... só se o grupo aqui ajudar, se for melhor assim... Poderia fazer um grupo de linhas fixando apenas a dezena 4, e posteriormente quando o pessoal falar definir dezenas parar fixar e gerar outro grupo de linhas... Acho que isso... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotofacil2100 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Aguimetal, já viu esse tópico? O Pauloeasy e outros participantes postaram coisas interessantes sobre esse assunto no link acima. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieJoe Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Aguimetal e demais, Estudo feito com linhas começando com 04 e com 05. São 8468 linhas de 15 que nunca acertaram 14-15 pontos até o sorteio 1547. Mas foram muito pródigas em premiações de 12-13. Claro que premiaram muito com 11 também. Vejam https://www.dropbox.com/s/je1rhqrs3v5iba5/8468 linhas de 15 Nunca Ac 14-15 - Muitas premiações de 12e13.txt?dl=1 Juntas, as 8468 linhas de 15 tiveram Nunca pegaram 14 nem 15 pontos. Mas pegaram: 287002 acertos de 12 e ou 13 pontos até o sorteio 1547. Só com 12 pontos = 264168 vezes Só com 13 pontos = 22834 vezes e só com 11 pontos = 1244020 vezes São muitas linhas, com certeza. Mas são para atender ao Aguimetal em seus estudos. Bons estudos!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieJoe Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Aguimetal e demais, Já estas 500 linhas são o "Crème de La Crème" para acertos de 12 e 13 e 11 até o sorteio 1547 Elas sairam das 8468 acima. Classifiquei para pegar a maior pontuação geral de premios de 11+12+13. 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Todas começam com 04 ou 05...... Bons estudos e boa sorte! Fui! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aguimetal Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 Grande DixieJoe... Obrigado, agradeço... pessoal do forum tambem agradece, com certeza... Agora é quebrar a cabeça... em estudar elas... hehe Nem sei por onde comecar direito... talvez verificar algumas atrasadas, que devem ser muitas... e tentar selecionar algumas para testar... até mais... Aparecendo novidades, e novas ideias com essas linhas... só comentarem pessoal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieJoe Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Pois é.... Gerar é possível para o passado. Como usar para o futuro????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aguimetal Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 @Crazy Rabbit Referente a Planilha que comentei ja excluindo as dezenas iniciais 1-2-3 ou 1-2-3-4, sobre a possibilidade de montar alguma planilha especifica pra isso... 3 dezenas que eu iria incluir e excluir se basearia nas 5 ultimas atrasadas... Pessoal gerou essas linhas, não sei se ajudaria em algo... apesar que quando vir um resultado deste também tem que se avaliar o ultimo sorteio, acredito eu... não sei se ajudou muito, mas quem sabe... Valeu, agradeço Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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