oiregor Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 VERSÃO 10 NO AR... COM LIMITADOR DE TEMPO DE PROCESSAMENTO (MELHOR QUE INTERROMPER) aguardo sugestão de mais filtros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorel Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 olá seria uma dorma de filtros as somas dos digitosolá preciso de alguem que entenda do excel, para separar os digitos da frente e final da dezena dos sorteios depois somar a quantidade assim dos digitos da frente e dos final e tambem os dois juntos ( digito inicial e final) OBJETIVO= criar um filtros de digitos para cruzar e montar a a melhor dezena okSe você quer uma combinação de seis números de dois dígitos, que é de 12 dígitos. Então, vamos supor que você quer 4 vezes 0, 3 vezes 1, 2 vezes e 3 vezes 9 5, que é de 12 todos juntos. Agora você precisa organizá-los em pares para fazer números. Eu acho que vai ser mais fácil de compor números de 0 .. 59, em vez de 1 .. 60, para que no final, você leva 0 (ou seja, 00) para 60. Comece com uma linha: 0,0,0,0,1,1,1,5,5,5,9,9 Aqui, você só tem 10 dígitos (0, 1 e 5), que se qualificam para o primeiro dígito nos números abaixo de 60. Então, primeiro você escolhe 6 dígitos para tomar posições do primeiro dígito em cada número. Para começar, você escolhe um número aleatório de 1 .. 10. Por exemplo você recebe 5. Você tem um dígito no número local 5 (marcado a vermelho), assim que você tirá-lo. Esse será o primeiro dígito do seu primeiro número. O que resta é a seguinte: 0,0,0,0,1,1,5,5,5,9,9 Agora, escolha um número aleatório de 1 .. 9. Por exemplo, você recebe 3, onde você encontra dígito 0, então o primeiro dígito para o segundo número é 0 Isto agora é para a esquerda.: 0,0,0,1,1,5,5,5,9,9 Etc. Digamos que você acaba fith os seguintes dígitos: 1,0,5,1,5,0 Então, agora você é deixado com uma seqüência: 0,0,1,5,9,9 Para o segundo dígito, todos os dígitos qualificar. Então, agora você escolher um número aleatório de 1 .. 6. Por exemplo, você tem 4, o que lhe dá dígito 5. Etc. Vamos dizer que, no final, a sua segunda seqüência é 5,0,1,9,0,9. Isto dá-lhe a sua combinação final: 15,00,51,19,50,09 Este é OK, mas pode acontecer que o mesmo número aparece duas vezes, de modo que você pode precisar trocar os últimos dígitos do número dois no final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pitaco_certo! Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Pessoal, meu tempo de contribuição será afetado pelo trabalho, estou me esforçando para contribuir com os colegas. Minha sugestão em relação a planilha; 1)Acho que a planilha deve nos permitir simplesmente gerar as combinações, nesse intuito minha sugestão é apenas que a planilha nos permita fazer isso sem levar em consideração nenhum filtro. Exatamente igual as primeiras versões antes dos filtros. Para isso pode-se criar um botão ON /OFF onde, ON desvia o Fluxo para os filtros e OFF, apenas gera as combinações, desprezando todo e qualquer filtro. 2)Sobre filtros como eu já havia dito, eu não os uso, por isso posso contribui muito pouco, (Poderia contribuir melhor na Dupla Sena), mas o que tenho e compreendo passo a todos, fazer assim para a Mega Sena; Para jogos de 6 dezenas, (Já informei que usando grupos com mais dezenas, minha opinião é usar uma matriz do tipo; http://www.ccrwest.org/cover/t_pages/t4/k6/C_15_6_4.html Poderia ter outras opções para o fechamento, caso necessário, no máximo 3 ). Fazer isso; Usando o modelo clássico do Taufic, organizado em 15 Quadrantes com 4 dezenas, sendo 1,2,11 e,12, o 1º quadrante e 3,4,13 e,14 o 2º quadrante e assim sucessivamente; Para a primeira dezena de um conjunto composto por 6 dezenas o filtro deve manter apenas as combinações que apresentarem os seguintes quadrantes; 1,2,3,4,5 e 6! Todas as demais devem ser reprovadas! É isso! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorel Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 ok, oriegor, voce consegue além dos pesos claro, fazer que certa dezena nao apareça numa determinada posiçao ou seja numa matriz de 30 jogos a dezena dentro da configuraçao de pesos .nao apareça numa posiçao estabecida. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiregor Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1)Acho que a planilha deve nos permitir simplesmente gerar as combinações, nesse intuito minha sugestão é apenas que a planilha nos permita fazer isso sem levar em consideração nenhum filtro. Exatamente igual as primeiras versões antes dos filtros. Para isso pode-se criar um botão ON /OFF onde, ON desvia o Fluxo para os filtros e OFF, apenas gera as combinações, desprezando todo e qualquer filtro. Para jogos de 6 dezenas, (Já informei que usando grupos com mais dezenas, minha opinião é usar uma matriz do tipo;Poderia ter outras opções para o fechamento, caso necessário, no máximo 3 ). Separei dois pedaços (Taufic veremos depois): ON/OFF para uso dos filtros: considere feito, exceto o filtro para gravação de jogos repetidos (já tem gravado 01-02-03-04-05-06, não permitirá gravar outro igual - só esse será mantido); Vou acrescentar (na próxima versão) matrizes (a planilha vai crescer em tamanho), mas acho que deveremos ter algumas somente, e sempre com utilização dos filtros, nessa situação teremos que definir que se 30% dos jogos da matriz forem INVALIDOS o jogo inicial criado será VALIDO. Por exemplo: 15-06-04-06=117 (é isso?), se 30% desses 117 jogos forem INVALIDOS, as 15 dezenas iniciais serão VÁLIDAS, mas se 30% + 1 jogo for INVALIDO as 15 dezenas serão INVALIDAS. Pode ser???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiregor Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 ok, oriegor, voce consegue além dos pesos claro, fazer que certa dezena nao apareça numa determinada posiçao ou seja numa matriz de 30 jogos a dezena dentro da configuraçao de pesos .nao apareça numa posiçao estabecida. Possível também... Mas veja uma situação: vamos colocar 6 colunas de indicação de peso, ou seja, para a coluna 1 teremos 60 linhas, para coluna 2 outras 60 linhas, etc... é isso???Dessa forma os jogos serão formados somente pelas dezenas que forem indicadas em cada posição... facilitaria a geração, mas poderia bloquear caso as dezenas sejam muito apertadas (poucas por posição), evitando a geração global dos jogos... precisamos conversar mais sobre essa regra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pitaco_certo! Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Separei dois pedaços (Taufic veremos depois): ON/OFF para uso dos filtros: considere feito, exceto o filtro para gravação de jogos repetidos (já tem gravado 01-02-03-04-05-06, não permitirá gravar outro igual - só esse será mantido); Vou acrescentar (na próxima versão) matrizes (a planilha vai crescer em tamanho), mas acho que deveremos ter algumas somente, e sempre com utilização dos filtros, nessa situação teremos que definir que se 30% dos jogos da matriz forem INVALIDOS o jogo inicial criado será VALIDO. Por exemplo: 15-06-04-06=117 (é isso?), se 30% desses 117 jogos forem INVALIDOS, as 15 dezenas iniciais serão VÁLIDAS, mas se 30% + 1 jogo for INVALIDO as 15 dezenas serão INVALIDAS. Pode ser???? Oiregor veja; Perfeito em relação ao botão; O que é importante é que a planilha permita fazer a geração dos bilhetes apenas levando em consideração as quantidades de vezes que asdezenas informadas vão aparecer. Tudo bem relação ao filtro 01-02-03-04-05-06, pode até limitar essa referência ao no máximo 4 ou 5. Na matriz sugerida, basta acertar apenas 4 (Quatro) dezenas para termos uma quadra, 100% garantida. Acertando mais de 4 dezenas, a matriz aumenta as premiações de quadras. Acertando mais de 5 dezenas, a quantidade de quadras é grande, podendo obter premiação de quina, isso é variável. Agora Oiregor, vamos precisar dessa calma que você apregoa, quando diz que as combinações ao alcançarem valores maiores de 30% na matriz, reprova-se automaticamente a combinação, acompanhe; Eu tenho uma combinação de 15 dezenas, exemplo; 01 04 05 15 16 18 19 25 29 33 35 38 40 41 46 Usando a matriz sugerida, temos os seguintes prognósticos; C(15,6,4) <=117 01 04 05 15 40 4601 04 05 16 19 3501 04 05 18 29 4101 04 05 25 33 3801 04 15 16 25 3301 04 15 18 19 3501 04 15 29 38 4101 04 16 18 38 4001 04 16 29 41 4601 04 18 25 33 4601 04 19 25 29 4101 04 19 25 33 4001 04 19 35 38 4601 04 25 29 33 3501 04 25 35 40 4101 04 29 33 40 4101 05 15 16 40 4101 05 15 18 19 3301 05 15 18 38 4001 05 15 25 35 4001 05 15 29 33 4001 05 16 18 25 2901 05 16 33 38 4601 05 18 19 29 3801 05 18 29 35 4601 05 19 25 41 4601 05 19 33 35 4001 05 33 35 38 4101 15 16 18 19 4601 15 16 29 35 3801 15 18 19 25 4101 15 18 19 29 4001 15 19 33 38 4001 15 25 29 38 4601 15 33 35 41 4601 16 18 33 35 4101 16 19 25 38 4101 16 19 29 33 4001 16 19 29 35 4101 16 25 35 40 4601 18 25 35 38 4001 18 29 33 38 4001 18 38 40 41 4601 19 25 29 35 4001 19 25 33 40 4101 19 29 33 40 4604 05 15 16 33 4604 05 15 18 33 4104 05 15 19 25 4604 05 15 29 35 4604 05 15 38 41 4604 05 16 18 38 4104 05 16 25 29 4004 05 18 19 40 4104 05 18 25 35 4104 05 18 25 38 4604 05 19 29 33 3804 05 33 35 38 4004 15 16 18 33 3804 15 16 18 41 4604 15 16 19 29 3304 15 16 33 35 4004 15 18 25 29 4004 15 19 38 40 4104 15 25 35 38 4104 16 18 19 25 3804 16 18 29 35 3804 16 19 40 41 4604 16 25 35 41 4604 16 33 38 41 4604 18 19 29 33 4604 18 33 35 40 4604 19 25 33 35 4104 19 29 35 40 4104 25 29 38 40 4605 15 16 18 38 4605 15 16 19 35 4105 15 16 25 29 4105 15 18 25 33 3805 15 18 29 33 4005 15 18 33 35 3805 15 19 29 38 4005 16 18 19 35 4005 16 18 33 41 4605 16 19 25 29 3805 16 19 25 33 4605 16 19 25 35 3805 16 29 33 35 4605 16 33 38 40 4605 18 19 25 40 4605 19 29 33 38 4105 19 29 35 38 4605 25 29 33 35 4605 25 33 38 40 4105 29 35 40 41 4615 16 18 25 35 4615 16 18 29 40 4615 16 18 33 38 4115 16 19 25 38 4015 18 19 33 38 4015 18 29 33 38 4615 18 29 35 40 4115 19 25 29 33 3515 19 29 33 41 4615 19 35 38 40 4615 25 33 40 41 4616 18 19 29 33 4116 18 25 33 40 4116 19 25 29 38 4616 19 33 35 38 4616 25 29 33 35 3816 29 35 38 40 4118 19 25 29 33 3518 19 35 38 41 4618 25 29 38 41 4619 25 33 35 38 4625 29 33 35 40 41 Dado o último concurso de número 1783 (23/01/2016) 04 06 16 18 21 38, temos o seguinte resultado. 14 acerto(s) de 0 ponto(s)35 acerto(s) de 1 ponto(s)58 acerto(s) de 2 ponto(s)5 acerto(s) de 3 ponto(s)5 acerto(s) de 4 ponto(s) Mas observe que temos 95,73 % dos jogos reprovados! Ainda observe que, se houvêssemos reprovado tal combinação, perderíamos 5 acertos de quadra, que totalizaram o valor de R$ 2.275,00. Isso mostra que o valor percentual deve ser revisto! Como reduzir os 117 jogos? Isso já informei, veja como é simples; Use os quadrantes informados para a primeira dezena, usando o limite 0 com minimo e máximo 2, você não perderia absolutamente nenhum único bilhete premiado e ainda diminuiria seus bilhetes ruins. Agora como reduzir mais? Aguarde parte III. Vamos caminhando conforme sua velocidade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiregor Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Oiregor veja;Perfeito em relação ao botão;O que é importante é que a planilha permita fazer a geração dos bilhetes apenas levando em consideração as quantidades de vezes que asdezenas informadas vão aparecer.Tudo bem relação ao filtro 01-02-03-04-05-06, pode até limitar essa referência ao no máximo 4 ou 5.Na matriz sugerida, basta acertar apenas 4 (Quatro) dezenas para termos uma quadra, 100% garantida.Acertando mais de 4 dezenas, a matriz aumenta as premiações de quadras.Acertando mais de 5 dezenas, a quantidade de quadras é grande, podendo obter premiação de quina, isso é variável.Agora Oiregor, vamos precisar dessa calma que você apregoa, quando diz que as combinações ao alcançarem valores maiores de 30% na matriz, reprova-se automaticamente a combinação, acompanhe;Eu tenho uma combinação de 15 dezenas, exemplo; 01 04 05 15 16 18 19 25 29 33 35 38 40 41 46 Usando a matriz sugerida, temos os seguintes prognósticos; C(15,6,4) <=11701 04 05 15 40 4601 04 05 16 19 35...19 25 33 35 38 4625 29 33 35 40 41 Dado o último concurso de número 1783 (23/01/2016) 04 06 16 18 21 38, temos o seguinte resultado. 14 acerto(s) de 0 ponto(s)35 acerto(s) de 1 ponto(s)58 acerto(s) de 2 ponto(s)5 acerto(s) de 3 ponto(s)5 acerto(s) de 4 ponto(s) Mas observe que temos 95,73 % dos jogos reprovados!Ainda observe que, se houvêssemos reprovado tal combinação, perderíamos 5 acertos de quadra, que totalizaram o valor de R$ 2.275,00.Isso mostra que o valor percentual deve ser revisto!Como reduzir os 117 jogos?Isso já informei, veja como é simples;Use os quadrantes informados para a primeira dezena, usando o limite 0 com minimo e máximo 2, você não perderia absolutamente nenhum único bilhete premiado e ainda diminuiria seus bilhetes ruins.Agora como reduzir mais?Aguarde parte III.Vamos caminhando conforme sua velocidade! Não é bem isso que quis dizer com os 30%....Vamos lá... usando a matriz sugerida (sem demonstrar, por enquanto), temos 117 jogos,,, ao usar qualquer série de 15 dezenas e aplicar na matriz, os 117 jogos serão avaliados em CADA um dos filtros que temos hoje na planilha... Ou seja em vez de avaliar as 15 dezenas, a planilha vai validar cada um dos 117 jogos para IMPARES, cada um dos 117 jogos para DEZENAS SEGUIDAS, cada um dos 117 jogos para LINHA, cada um dos 117 jogos para COLUNA, cada um dos 117 jogos para POSICAO, etc... quantos filtros criarmos, TODOS os fitlros para TODOS os jogos desmembrados... Vai ficar "enorme" (bem provável), depois só precisaremos "avaliar o corte" que aplicaremos como jogo válido. Veja que isso é uma forma simples de aplicar os estudo com mais dezenas, pois SEMPRE serão avaliadas pelo seu desmembramento, seja ele um desmembramento completo (15-6-6-6=5005) ou desmembramentos reduzido (15-6-4-6=19).CAPTOU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiregor Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 vamos aos "exemplo práticos", mas simples... Temos estes quatro filtros:- de 0 até 3 dezenas impares- até 02 dezenas seguidas;- até 02 dezenas por linha;- até 02 dezenas por coluna. Temos estas 8 dezenas: 02 04 17 18 19 27 52 57 Foi escolhida a matriz: 08-06-05-06=0004 Que gerou estes jogos:02 04 17 18 19 5202 04 17 27 52 5702 04 18 19 27 5704 17 19 27 52 57 numa olhada na linha de 8 não haveriam grandes problemas exceto pela sequencia 17-18-19. Mas vejamos nos jogos:02 04 17 18 19 52 == 2 impares == 3 em sequencia == 2 na coluna == 3 na linha 02 04 17 27 52 57 == 3 impares == 1 em sequencia == 3 na coluna == 2 na linha 02 04 18 19 27 57 == 3 impares == 2 em sequencia == 2 na coluna == 2 na linha 04 17 19 27 52 57 == 4 impares == 1 em sequencia == 3 na coluna == 2 na linha Fica evidente que somente UM joguinho seria aprovado nos filtros com essa matriz e essas 8 dezenas!!!!!!! Na matriz 08-06-06-06=28, temos somente 11 jogos aprovados, ou algo perto de 39%. Mas uma outra série de 8 dezenas: 02 04 11 28 29 39 52 57A coisa muda para 22 jogos aprovados, ou 79% de aprovação!!!!!! Só não foi 100% pois alguns jogos tem 4 dezenas impares. Quando vamos para 15 dezenas a coisa muda radicalmente... e precisamos ajustar os filtros, "aceitando" mais coisas, ou alterando o "percentual" de aprovados04 06 10 12 16 18 23 27 30 36 38 49 51 54 56 Na matriz 15-06-05-06=0142 com os mesmos filtros acima, a aprovação cai para 67%, pois temos mais jogos com 3 dezenas nas linhas ou colunas, Da mesma forma com 15-06-06-06=5005, temos 69% de aprovação. Mas mesmo com essa "redução" EU ENTENDO que é um jogo aceitável... mas qualquer coisa que fique abaixo de 50% é ruim (isso com somente estes quatro filtros). Enquanto escrevo vou terminando a versão 11, já com o validador de posições e atualizo no site... aguardem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorel Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 grande oriegor, sobre as posiçoes, vamos ver assim a partir do ultimo subindo em 30 sorteios depois mais trinta, ... para ver a frequencia e arepetiçao das dezenas em cada coluna ou posiçao ( sorteio ordem crescente) objetivo= ver a média de intervalo de repetiçao de cada dezena nas suas posiçoes( sao 6 claro) Há ORIEGOR,voce consegue fazer um estudo da dezena vizinha, exemplo= 1ªposiçao a dezena 08 esta atrasada com a dezena 15 da 2ª posiçao( eu estou atrasado com minha vizinha, mas ela disse se depender dela vai demorar muito para sair pro baile,entende!! nao era bem um baile ahhh!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphgf Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Bom dia oiregoR e foristas,se me permitir uma sugestão... Dentro do site do http://www.free1x2.com/ encontrei uma planilha de geração por grupos, podendo-se escolher grupos com 3 dezenas, com 2 e solteros.. http://depositfiles.org/files/w32yc2mji de repente ela possa ajudar nalgum critério de grupos. Achei interessante o conceito simples, objetivo e prático que o autor colocou igualmente sua planilha que ainda em fase de elaboração tem se mostrado eficiente !! Outra opção ou alternativa é visualizar os filtros disponiveis em outros aplicativos, quiçá sirva para ajudar nalguma intuição e não necessariamente repetir mas também acrescentar como o Sorel vem fazendo. http://www.megaprimi.com/filtros.php Conforme os filtros, restrições vão sendo acrescentados a complexidade vai aumentar e pode recair no problema de acertos de filtros e dai gerar poucos jogos e ficar sem premiação, o que é um risco. Talvez antes de acrescentar muitos filtros esteja na hora de pensar quais filtros sejam bons com tais outros filtros, talvez o DixieJoe possa orientar nessa parte. Obrigado pela nova versão Sphgf Versão nova no meu site... Peço que testem e façam sugestões...se escreveram algo acima e não fiz, por favor, escrevam novamente... usem a versão 9 se alguém pegou a versão 8, jogue fora... tem um erro na geração para 6 dezenas... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorel Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 ok,sphg,boa sua ajuda!!! boas as planilias talvez o oiregor consegue fazer para mega nossa,algumas partes, para aproveitarsphg e oriegor, será poderiamos criar um filtros de padroes rotativos pelo todos( as seis posiçoes ou posiçao por posiçao)?objetivo=acertar os padroes( pequenos padroes) ai a dezena esta ou noa esta dentro, capichi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorel Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 o oriegor, cada posiçao tem 10 terminaçoes de que sao de 0 a 9entao o filtro para os pesos é nas terminaçoes para eliminar 4 terminaçoes a ultima mais adjacente e mais espelho ver tabela 01234 56789entao. se no ultimo sorteio foi a dezena 08 a terminçao é 8 adjacentes 7,9 e espelho,3 entao no proximo nao se joga as terminaçoes = 8,7,9,3 ficando 6 terminaçoes e asim com as outras posiçoes,posiçao por posiçaoagora dentro das 6 restante precisamos ver como escolher 2 ou 3 terminaçoes certeiras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorel Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 ola oriegor, parece clarear a ideia que temos focas nas terminaçoes( nao as nervosas claro ahh!) até porque o digitos inicial vai de 0 a 55 ( 60 seria 00) acertando as termiçaoes temos 75% a 80% chance de acertar, por isto temos ver as terminaçoes como grande filtro no pesos capichi, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorel Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 oriegor e demais, o teste 1785= deu 05 11 27 41 42 54digitos fora= que ficaram fora= 3,6,8,9 ou seja em apenas 6 digitosas duplas de digitos= 55 22 as trincas= 111 444 o problema é achar as posiçoes dentro das 12 possiveis, as trincas exemplo a trinca 444( quantidade de digitos) deu nas posiçoes 7ª 9ª e 10ª, ou seja voce sabendo as posiçoes das duplas trincas e quadruplas de digitos esta 80% nabase de acertar de 4,5 dezenas, pergunto como podemosachar as posiuçoes corretas das trincas e quadruplas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorel Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 bem o ultimo teste deu= 05,11,27,41,42,54 testa anterior deu 04 15 26,30 54 55 somente as terminaçoes 4 5 6 0 4 5note que nem uma terminaçao nao há repetiçao na aposiçao por por posiçaorepetiu 5,4, mas nao na posiçao do ultimo para o proximo entao alem de o mesmo, adjacentes e espelho temos do ultimo para o proximo pra tirar entao sao 5 digitos ( as vezes do ultimo para o proximo da nos adjacentes no exemplo da 1ª dezena de 5 que no anterior deu 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pitaco_certo! Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 oriegor e demais, o teste 1785= deu 05 11 27 41 42 54digitos fora= que ficaram fora= 3,6,8,9 ou seja em apenas 6 digitosas duplas de digitos= 55 22 as trincas= 111 444 o problema é achar as posiçoes dentro das 12 possiveis, as trincas exemplo a trinca 444( quantidade de digitos) deu nas posiçoes 7ª 9ª e 10ª, ou seja voce sabendo as posiçoes das duplas trincas e quadruplas de digitos esta 80% nabase de acertar de 4,5 dezenas, pergunto como podemosachar as posiuçoes corretas das trincas e quadruplas ? Olá Julceu! Bacana essa observação sua, como você controla isso? Tem alguma planilha para isso? Se possível pode compartilhar? Acho isso bom, vou postar um cartão meu da Mega Sena, eu estava muito afim de ficar em casa então fiz um jogo cabuloso e simples, fiz poucos jogos apenas 10, me orientei apenas pelos dígitos para restringir um pouco o universo de possibilidades, já já posto o bilhete aqui para você ver como sempre temos chance e claro sempre temos que acreditar, eu acho a questão dos dígitos boa.... Já volto, vou digitalizar o bilhete.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pitaco_certo! Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 bem o ultimo teste deu= 05,11,27,41,42,54 testa anterior deu 04 15 26,30 54 55 somente as terminaçoes 4 5 6 0 4 5note que nem uma terminaçao nao há repetiçao na aposiçao por por posiçaorepetiu 5,4, mas nao na posiçao do ultimo para o proximo entao alem de o mesmo, adjacentes e espelho temos do ultimo para o proximo pra tirar entao sao 5 digitos ( as vezes do ultimo para o proximo da nos adjacentes no exemplo da 1ª dezena de 5 que no anterior deu 4 Bom, Você iria ficar entusiasmado com o jogo, desses 10 jogos que fiz, um deles bastaria fazer assim; +1,+1,+1,+1,+1,+1 Eu acertaria uma quina nele. ! Não vou digitalizar todos pois dá trabalho, mas veja esse; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorel Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 ok sobre as duplas trincas e quadruplas de digitos, nao será facil localizar nas posiçoes que sao 12 posiçoes porque tem digito inicial e final que compoe as duplas trincas e quadradruplos( poucas vezes quintuplos) exemplo 11111 ou 33333quando conseguirmos, saber nas posiçoes ( ainda nao consegui isto) ver aonde transita em baixo das 12 posiçoes se poderá fixar as duplas trincas etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorel Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 pitaco, temos ver como montar ou estruturar as 12 posiçoes colocando as 12 posiçoes num topicopara ver aonde vai as duplas trincas e quadruplas , ja temos 10 digitos de 0 a 9 e 12 posiçoes ou seja tem haver na condiçao minima que fique claro duas repetiçao de digitos mas quase sempre tem mais pois saem de 6,7,8 dos 10 possiveis ou seja a repetiçao será uma constante, o problema é saber em que posiçao? capichi colocando nas posiçoes corretas e fixar a chance de reduçao é grande Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiregor Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 ok... acrescentarei um filtro para criar/validar jogos com até XX digitos.Por exemplo:- Definimos 6 digitos;- jogo A = 01 02 03 04 05 06 ==== 07 digitos ==== Não aprovado.- jogo B = 01 02 03 04 05 11 ==== 06 digitos ==== Aprovado!!!!!!!! (exemplo simples, sem validar outros filtros). É isso??????? Mais sugestões????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pitaco_certo! Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 ok... acrescentarei um filtro para criar/validar jogos com até XX digitos.Por exemplo:- Definimos 6 digitos;- jogo A = 01 02 03 04 05 06 ==== 07 digitos ==== Não aprovado.- jogo B = 01 02 03 04 05 11 ==== 06 digitos ==== Aprovado!!!!!!!! (exemplo simples, sem validar outros filtros). É isso??????? Mais sugestões????? Julceu, Por favor, poste aqui as combinações de dígitos que você usa, para que o Oiregor, possa quem sabe filtrar quando o processo for utilizado em 6 dezenas, oriente por favor Julceu, sobre a arquitetura do filtro para o Oiregor, estudar uma forma para fazer isso adequadamente. Oiregor, se o Julceu se enrolar segue minha sugestão, mas como o Julceu estuda essa estrutura, vamos esperar que ele nos ajude em como utilizar isso; Trios sem repetição de dígitos; 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Guest Pitaco_certo! Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 ok... acrescentarei um filtro para criar/validar jogos com até XX digitos.Por exemplo:- Definimos 6 digitos;- jogo A = 01 02 03 04 05 06 ==== 07 digitos ==== Não aprovado.clu- jogo B = 01 02 03 04 05 11 ==== 06 digitos ==== Aprovado!!!!!!!! (exemplo simples, sem validar outros filtros). É isso??????? Mais sugestões????? Rogério! Minha sugestão já lhe passei sobre os quadrantes inclusive, já passei os mesmos para a primeira posição, você ficou de ver isso "mais adiante", conforme suas palavras, mas volto a te disse Rogério, comece por eles.... Outra sugestão; Reprovar todas as quinas e senas que ocorram da seguinte forma; 01.....10-Se quina e Sena reprovar;11.....20-Se quina e Sena reprovar;21.....13-Se quina e Sena reprovar; E assim sucessivamente.... Att, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pitaco_certo! Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Oiregor, por favor; Observe a sugestão do SW, megaprimi, no manual do mesmo em PDF, verifique os itens, 3.4. GRUPOS DE NÚMEROS e 3.5. GRUPOS RELACIONADOS, se puder isso é de grande ajuda! Att, Bom dia oiregoR e foristas,se me permitir uma sugestão... Dentro do site do http://www.free1x2.com/ encontrei uma planilha de geração por grupos, podendo-se escolher grupos com 3 dezenas, com 2 e solteros.. http://depositfiles.org/files/w32yc2mji de repente ela possa ajudar nalgum critério de grupos. Achei interessante o conceito simples, objetivo e prático que o autor colocou igualmente sua planilha que ainda em fase de elaboração tem se mostrado eficiente !! Outra opção ou alternativa é visualizar os filtros disponiveis em outros aplicativos, quiçá sirva para ajudar nalguma intuição e não necessariamente repetir mas também acrescentar como o Sorel vem fazendo. http://www.megaprimi.com/filtros.php Conforme os filtros, restrições vão sendo acrescentados a complexidade vai aumentar e pode recair no problema de acertos de filtros e dai gerar poucos jogos e ficar sem premiação, o que é um risco. Talvez antes de acrescentar muitos filtros esteja na hora de pensar quais filtros sejam bons com tais outros filtros, talvez o DixieJoe possa orientar nessa parte. Obrigado pela nova versão Sphgf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiregor Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Não entendi isso: Reprovar todas as quinas e senas que ocorram da seguinte forma; 01.....10-Se quina e Sena reprovar;11.....20-Se quina e Sena reprovar;21.....13-Se quina e Sena reprovar; E nos quadrantes, por exemplo de "01 02 11 12" máximo de 3 dezenas?Um fitlro para cada quadrante, ou um geral para todos os quadrantes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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